RANK STRUCTURE

comedyofhate · RANK STRUCTURE

It is broken, suggestions on how to fix it here.

Woody

The problemyou will always have is some people want to play and have fun and see being ordered around as not fun. So people ignore rank structure. Also many people always assume the anti hero is more fun being able to do what you like and not follow orders. But if everyone is an anti hero then they lose plain and simple.

How to fix that is enforcement of the rank structure. If someone talks back slap them with IC penalties. if someone does somthing stupid same again. However then people may well start to complain. Disrespecting an officer could lead to a loss of downtime as you are on punishment detail. That would quickley make people thing I suspect. But is it over harsh?

Bluefaerie

As well as that, what about all those who don't have military rank? I'm sorry, but the whole UKGC does not seem to be a military run organisation but an Intelligence one - at least, susan campbell always seems to me to be Intelligence.

There are at least five Scientists/Doctors/Civilians who don't have military rank and where the heck do we fit into the structure? We're not supposed to be military, we haven't a clue about the structure, all we know is what we do (be it save lives, planets, chemical analysis, cryptography...) and that people with guns protect us.

On an OC note, we deliberately chose not to be military, why should we be penalised for something that we don't know IC?

Freeman

As I understand it UKGC / UKSP (whatever you want to call it) is an intelligence led operation.
So military rank, link any other has little actual weight.
The only ranks that count are those that actually matter, ie those within the project.

So:
Command Staff (IC Off World Ops, CMO etc)
Heads of Department (and their 2ic)
Team Leader (and their 2ic)
Team Member

I'm sure that someone with a much better understanding of actual organisational structures than me could make it into a pretty tree diagram or some such and make it work.

But all the while UKSP is joint operation Rank in ANY of it's component parts is irrelevant when compared rank within the project.

dante73

I personally think the time has come to set up UK Gate SOC (Special Operations Command). It should be independent of all branches, and have its own structure and ranks.

It also presents an opportunity to clean up the plotlines about government/corporate interference, and to get rid of the constant references to incompetence within the services as it will all be done by UK Gate SOC who should be the best of the best.

It could be the result of a review carried out by the new PM, for example.

Just my thoughts, obv.

Fenric

A lot of this is IC plot which is currently being written up, the discussion around rank was more OOC stuff. The plot stuff is definately being dealt with.

Freeman

I Like Leon's idea. A lot.
It also allows the bosses to restructure rank entirely, and assign as appropriate.

comedyofhate

IMO Rank structure is all IC. With any luck there will be a rulebook And a seperate IC SGUK handbook or whatever. This will go into the IC book.

Rank structure is technically rules, but IC rules so this is more to do with the plot-cordinator. I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge of who.

Ic is it an intelligence based organisation. Military rank should have feck and all to do with whom is in charge.

Do well in the SG organisation get promoted. Have more authority.

Somebody disobeys direct orders, IC consequences. Stick some rules and regulations in the IC handbook. All good.

Colour Sargent Rob Knight

Yes that wuld make sense, the rank structure is confusing atm, the interaction with milatry people is easy, you ask for a rank, providing the organiser (I supose plot cordinator now), says so you get it.

But the UKGC number is confusing, if it were revamed so everyone across the three branches got it (Not replacing milatry rank, but superceeding it in terms of importancte), then it would allow characters from all 3 sections to know who the boss is.

Colonel_moletov

I think it all depends ... some people are better at giving orders in the middle of a fight where as others have more organisational qualities about them. I dont know if anyone agrees with this but it does depend of the individual.

comedyofhate

Hmm something like

junior operative
operative
senior operative

instead of ukgc01, 02 ,03 04.

Rank struture, keep it simple. I would reccomend having one branch for everyone, and a branch for those peopel who are specialists. I am normally wrong.

Mostly because the player base is small and two main cooks spoil the broth, rank structure keep it simple.

Freeman

why not Include the specilaties in the rank structure.
Just add specialist to their rank?

sm0keyb

Bluefaerie

It would make sense.

Something like UKGC/UKSP Rank "" (Medical Personnel) or something along those lines.

Colonel_moletov

so a rank structutre and a warrent officer class

sm0keyb

It's not quite rank structure but what are we calling ourselves? Are we still the UKGC? Or, do we become the UKSP to distinguish ourselves from any previous incarnation?

Seems to me that most people still use UKGC & It's on a lot of paperwork, unit patches & so on, so is there any reason to change?

Fenric

The UKSP is actually the alternate universe ones - from Path/Rob's plotline. Makes sense to stay the UKGC - and the UKGC will be used on the IC information I'll be giving out on the boards - to avoid confusion.

sm0keyb

Hadn't realised that. Embarassed

UKGC it is. I'll shut up now Confused

Fenric

No, I think there was a confusion - which I'm now here to sort out Smile