Pure Maths

comedyofhate · Pure Maths

Pure Mathematics: the study of number, algebra, geometry, statistics

Errm, anyone want to own up to having this skill, or anyone having seen it used?

i have dim recollections of event 1 it may have been used.

I am all for the veteran flavour skills and this may well end up there to be honest. What do you think?

Anyone got any Ideas how we can turn this into a useful functional skill?

Richard Tyler

The only way I can see this being useful is as a pre-requisite for other skills. Otherwise its usually covered by that 0 point skill 'Bullshit'

Olivia Chase · Re: Pure Maths

comedyofhate

Thats one vote for keeping it in. Still i would be tempted to chuck it to a veteran skill and give steve something else as well

thirteen7

I have not played Stargate for ages (since Event 4 I think where I found myslef on the recieving end of an alien tentacle and in need of a Proctologist... I try to blank the memories...) and when I did play I wasn't playing an academic however I wonder exactly how pokey 'Flash of Insight' really is? I mean, from reading the description it doesn't sound too game breaking however I hold my hands up as I don't really know what I'm talking about.

Recently I have gotten into watching the TV programme 'NUMB3RS' where math gets used to sove just about everything and this got me thinking that perhaps you could allow 'Flash of Insight' to be used in more circumstances? This would reflect the concept that a trained and gifted mathematician could break basically any problem back to a mathematical construction. (With the necessry associated random calulations/equations/working out etc on white boards/blackboards/paper/computer screens)

Just a thought... I like the idea of playing a mathematician so it would be a skill that I would take.

GefforyManning

I was in fact learning it for the accountency side

Fenric

Send a message to "Duncan Waterhouse" who is currently the person who uses Pure Maths the most - and yes playing someone like Professor Epps from Numb3rs is the ideal use of the skill.

Dangermouse

Jacqueline

Richard Tyler

JT

JT has Pure Maths. I was the bod using it at event one.

thirteen7

I have PM-ed. Many thanks.

Dave

Duncan Waterhouse

Prof Epps from Numb3rs is a wonderful example. You can also cite examples like Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park and Bernard Quatermass as others or even Evelyn Trimble from Casino Royale (the original).

As for Manning learning Pure Maths for Accountancy, that's a civil service approach all-over (going into obsessive detail for the basics). A shame he was sent in against Charlemagne (which is another civil service approach - using a specialist as a generalist or out-of-context). He will be missed.

PM received and reply given.

Klaus Von Bekk

there needs to be some way of making pure maths more specified, ie choose a specialisation in it: system modeling/Quantum maths/mechanics(as in the maths of newtonian physics)/eqation solving
then add 3 months to learn a new specialisation :/
makes it more of a usefull skill
ie: ref iv got system modeling, can i see any patterns occuring and predict outcomes? (ian malcom Razz

)

i dunno, just throwing ideas into the pot

i want the skill in the end, but its not top off my priorities.. event though realisticly, it should be, me being crazy scientist extraordinare

will x

Earthbinder

AS a point form the last event someone with pure maths could have enumerated the exact amount of "washers" in the box without having to count them all. (the derren brown trick)

comedyofhate

Actually dont specialise pure maths, because the skill is so specialised and so rarely used that most refs will except that you are a specialist in system modeling/Quantum maths/mechanics(as in the maths of newtonian physics)/eqation solving because frankly as human beings in the field most refs are not.

Gain the benefit of ref ignorance.

Klaus Von Bekk

ok i understand that Smile

what i think it needs then is some clarification as to the uses of it?

will x

Woody

Jess Parker

That works with a lot of skills Smile

It is all well and good having the skill in writing, but a lot can be gained by having the right props, and a bit of background knowledge, and tonnes of imagination Smile

Richard Tyler

bull$hit is a zero point skill people

RHys Llewellyn

No it isnt, its under Politics and takes 3 months, or is that just me Smile

Klaus Von Bekk

lol, but thats my point, i can bullshit alot, without pure maths, if i can bulshit a ref into thinking i have what it takes to understand something with my current skill set why would i want pure maths?

sorry if im being slow

will x

Jess Parker

That case stands until the ref asks if you have the skill in order to give you some information Wink

In the recent game I was able to interact with the natives despite not having linguistics, all by sign language. However I would not expect to be able to blag reading a more advanced language or understanding Goa'uld for example.

It is a fine line between blagging and cheating, lol.

Klaus Von Bekk

yes obviously. Smile

i just dont see a ref often going... Do you have pure maths?
it often seems more of a, player says.. iv got pure maths as well *blag blag blag* ref says... ok you get this information (which is normally what plot wants you to know from having the skill, and the pure maths lets you know little more :/)

see my confusion? or not :S
will x

Jess Parker

Ref requests like that do happen Smile

At event 12 we had sheets with the skills required for each problem/scenario listed. If you didn't have the skill you didn't get the information Smile

On the same count, if you don't know what to ask in line with the skill you can hit problems too, so bonafide skill and blag go hand in hand Smile

Klaus Von Bekk

i ask because it seems like a skill von bekk would have (being a total nutter mad scientist)
allowing him to do really fast silly calculations
but im put off by thinking that other things would be much more effective for the downtime used, (and about the same appropriateness) like alien tech or improving the million card game hands i can use.
i guess to me it seems like a small add on to other skills, letting you do them a bit better, but not having much of an effect on its own much :S
lol (i must sound like a broken record)

will x

Jess Parker

*changes to track two*

Hehe in all seriousness blag away but if you ever get asked the dreaded 'do you have the skill?' question you will hve to say no, unless by that time you have.

Ooh, modern Jazz!

Klaus Von Bekk

fair enough, maybie by doing more events ill see where it gets used more often Very Happy

thankyou, that helps alot
btw can you also look at my idea for non card game academic skills, i want to know what other players think, Very Happy

thanks
will x

Woody

For my mind if you can blag pure maths being useful then its big thing is the free flash of insight. Remmeber in this game feats are king they let you do stuff you otherwise can't so getting a free flash of insight can be a god send

Klaus Von Bekk

is that one flash of insight per problem/event/day/mission/ etc?

will x

Jess Parker

Flash of insight is a feat so I am guessing that if you have them you can use them.

Klaus Von Bekk

yes but you get extra ones from pure maths iv been told :/

will x

Woody

Yes you do. Off the top of my head no idea how many but read the rules its all in there.

Klaus Von Bekk

+1 flash of insight per day relating to maths problems

so i guess the cool bit is getting 3 free feats an event, even if they are slightly restricted

will x

Broz

Put this way if you want some use of pure maths my next character has a BIG project that would be helped by having a number cruncher on board...

Klaus Von Bekk

whats happening to major calvin to require a new character?

will x

Woody

Klaus Von Bekk

haha, fair enough Very Happy

im not so kitted up yet haha
will x

Woody

Its modern day so I have a suitvase with spare modern clothing that is not tactical in ayn way shapre or form.

RHys Llewellyn

Ah Civil Service Attire is it Woody?

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