Freeman
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Ambidexterity queryI know in the past that some people have Ambi'd G36's with the stocks folded.
But It's not too clear in the rules what the limits on what can be Ambi'd are.
Can we get some clarity on that please?
| Spontaneous Ambidexterity wrote: | For a scene (fight, working on two computers, etc), a character may perform a task with both hands or two weapons,
one in each hand. This allows the person to call “2 by 1” when shooting pistols indicating doing 2 bullets worth of
doing 1 damage. Also, Strike/Choke/Throw Unarmed Combat moves can be done with both hands at once. |
Can I use ambi'd SMGs ("Two by Three") or Ambi'd sawn off shotguns ("2 by Quad Knockdown")?
Is the G36 Ambi still an option? ("Two by Two Through")
Cheers
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Verity (Sophie)
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Oh yes that'd be really helpful but please can we have it in vaguely understandable non-gun language too as I have no idea what Rob's talking about.
SMG? What?
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Freeman
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SMG = Sub-Machine Gun. Such as those carried by Jess Parker & Izy Watts (MP5s), Allan Freeman (Mini Uzis - as loaned to Sophie).
Basically a small(ish) rapid firing gun that doesn't pack the punch of a larger weapon like an assault rifle (like the AK-47 you might see a russian carrying)
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Jacqueline
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Personally, I'd be considering the feasibility of using the items in question one handed with any form of success, and a lack of subsequent personal injury should you try.
Sure, go ahead and fire two sawn offs at once, so long as you're happy to have a matched pair of broken arms/wrists 
I'd be suggesting it limited to items designed for single handed use.
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Jess Parker
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Dont forget we are all hero characters, so we can usually get away with more than the average joe 
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Jean-Pierre
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My Classic army g36 is pretty much on the money weight wise versus the real thing. fold the stock and hold it one handed its doable but your accuracy would be utterly appaling!
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Jess Parker
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Hence the ambi skill...
Anyone without ambi would probably have very poor accuracy if they tried to dual wield, but someone who is trained/skilled in doing it would know the compensations needed in order to make the shots count.
Thats just my take on it ofc, but I think that the skill wouldn't be there if there were so many restrictions in place to make it not worth having.
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Jean-Pierre
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| Jess Parker wrote: | Hence the ambi skill...
Anyone without ambi would probably have very poor accuracy if they tried to dual wield, but someone who is trained/skilled in doing it would know the compensations needed in order to make the shots count.
Thats just my take on it ofc, but I think that the skill wouldn't be there if there were so many restrictions in place to make it not worth having. |
I was more leaning on accuracy being appaling because its just to damned heavy do deal with one handed. Ambidex should be kept in the realm of pistols and smgs. Assault rifles and carbines just don't work imho. Unless perhaps you had bodybuilder.....
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Richard Tyler
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Ambidex allows you to do multiple similar tasks with both hands at once. It doesn't give you the ability to do things that would need 2 hands with only one hand. Marcs comments are how I'd see it working too. Something to clarify in the next rules revision.
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Woody
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Yeah I'm with Marc here and would say pistol and SMG are fine, assault rifles etc are a no. HOwever I wouldn't rule out a feat to allow assault rifles to be used one handed which could then be combined with ambidex to allow it.
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Jess Parker
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I ofc agree that if you cannot lift the damn thing one handed you cannot ambi it. Although seeing Calvin dual wielding napoleonic cannons would be one not to miss
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Klaus Von Bekk
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i think it should as the rules currently state be restricted to only one handed things.. ie pistols etc.. however the heroic coolness of having two smg's is very nice and might make someone weekend by making them feel like a true hero. so i like the ideas of a feat to allow one handed use of smg's (not so sure about carbines) or allowing bodybuilders to dual weild smg's expert body builders to dual weild carbines and shotguns as well.
both i think give the bodybuilder feet more coolness and realism and make a gun bunnys weekend. so long as it doesnt start to get overused :/
will
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Meyrick
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Okay, I know realism isn't our main priority, but we have to give a nod towards it at least.
The problem with using firearms in one hand is recoil: it kills your accuracy. Since the combat system has no accuracy concept per se, we have to achieve a similar effect by simply ruling out some things.
In this case, I think anything other than a pistol is probably out of the question. While SMG's are only firing pistol ammo, they are firing a lot of it. Rifles and shotguns, well the kick on those is pretty fearsome even when you do it properly. Lighter weapons don't help much in this regard as a lighter weapon will actually kick more (it's why some sniper rifles have very heavily weighted stocks to damp recoil).
All that being said, it is a heroic idea and so one worthy of discussion. Consider it on the agenda for a System Lord meeting.
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